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04-05-2012, 04:36 PM
sk8er32283
I got a curve ball thrown at me.
Well life has thrown a fast one at me. I am thinking of selling the Barth so that it can be enjoyed by a family that will have more time for her. I have decided to stay in the navy and need to sell within the next year preferably sooner though. I am looking for some advice on selling price and possible sites for advertisment. I am aware or the following Barthmobile(of course), ebay, and craigslist. Also I would like some input on a reasonable selling price. I would like it gone sooner than later though.

In the last year I put on used all matching tire, replaced the original refrigerator with a refurbished one, fresh oil change, oil analysis, battery's reconditioned and various other clean up projects.

One of the previous owners had the interior redone in the mid 90's or so. It is still in pretty decent condition for its age but needs love as all of them do.


1988 Barth Regency
CAT 3208 AATC(~147000 miles)
gillig chassis
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1988 Barth Regency 38ft
CAT 3208AATC Intercooled
Allison 4 speed w/ air shifter
Gillig Chassis
7.5KW Onan Diesel Generator
Click for Charleston, South Carolina Forecast
04-05-2012, 04:55 PM
Danny Z
Well, it's kinda old, it's sitting in snow, it looks like a bus, so I think a reasonable price would be about $800. I can send you a check immediatly, just let me know where to send it to.
Seriously, it's a really nice coach, and there's always folks here looking, but knowing what others have paid recently and what the ebay Barths are doing, maybe mid 20s?


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04-05-2012, 05:37 PM
Rusty
I agree with DannyZ - nice coach with decent maintenance (by you at least) - low to mid $20Ks.


Rusty


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'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

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04-05-2012, 06:32 PM
sk8er32283
Danny: I figured someone would reply with an answer similar to yours. I thought about making a joke but decided to wait for the reply from someone a little funnier than I.

Just so everyone knows these pics are from when I bought it. I will have to get some knew pictures of her in her summer clothes in South Carolina.


1988 Barth Regency 38ft
CAT 3208AATC Intercooled
Allison 4 speed w/ air shifter
Gillig Chassis
7.5KW Onan Diesel Generator
Click for Charleston, South Carolina Forecast
04-05-2012, 07:44 PM
scottydl
You'll want to make sure everything works, especially high ticket items like roof A/C, generator, the overall electronics, and know the age of the tires. Anything much older than 7 years on an RV is asking for trouble, no matter how good the tire tread looks. The last 4 digits of the DOT code printed on the tire sidewall will tell you the week and year of manufacture.
04-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Mogan David
well, I infer that you paid B.W. between 15K and 20K in WILLIAMSVILLE, NEW YORK 14221 or Clarence, NY.
If so, it is probably not worth much more or less than when you got it.
I don't think "USED all matching tire(s), replaced the original refrigerator with a REFURBISHED one, fresh oil change, oil analysis, battery's RECONDITIONED and various other clean up projects."...have increased value.

I figure I'm in the same boat, even after spending a lot on repairs and maintenance (neither of which increases value, just helps it hang on to some)
04-05-2012, 10:12 PM
Rusty
Mogan is correct - the value of used tires, rebuilt reefer, and "reconditioned" (whatever that means) batteries doesn't increase the coach's market value. Those and the other items are considered routine maintenance.

They do, however, increase the coach's marketability as fewer knocks against it. What I mean by that is that more people are likely to consider your Barth, not that any of those would be willing to pay a higher price. From the larger prospect pool a buyer might arise.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
04-06-2012, 10:37 AM
bill h
quote:
Originally posted by scottydl:
..........the age of the tires. Anything much older than 7 years on an RV is asking for trouble, no matter how good the tire tread looks. The last 4 digits of the DOT code printed on the tire sidewall will tell you the week and year of manufacture.


Age by itself is an uncertain indicator. More important is the usage pattern and how well the pressure was maintained.

Tires that sit deteriorate much more rapidly than tires that are driven. The longer the intervals between trips, the worse the condition.

Tires that are driven below the proper pressures are worse than properly inflated tires.

A visual inspection of the sidewall will tell you more than looking at the tread. In fact, your fingertips rubbed over the sidewall can tell you a lot, finding little bulges.


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04-06-2012, 07:15 PM
scottydl
quote:
Originally posted by bill h:
Age by itself is an uncertain indicator. More important is the usage pattern and how well the pressure was maintained.


Probably true in the technical sense, but a lot of people are not all that vigilant about RV tire maintenance. That said, the potential for RV tire failure increases substantially after 7 years... and the things are downright hazardous if they reach age 10.
04-07-2012, 09:30 AM
Jim and Tere
Would this be true of tires purchased new in 2005? That's when we bought our Goodyears and the coach has been garaged ever since except on those rare occasions when we use it, however, we take it out every month or so and drive it for 50 miles or so. Careful inspection shows no cracking or dry rot of any kind
Humbo


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04-07-2012, 11:05 AM
scottydl
7-10 years is about as long as you want to go on RV tires. Even when sitting still, they are often at near-maximum capacity. Structural breakdown often starts from the inside out, so may not be visible by exterior dry rotting and the like.

Your tires may be fine for another 3 years since you've taken care of them, nobody really knows. It's just a matter of whether or not you want to risk a failure. Anyone who has experienced an RV blowout knows it's not pleasant. Flying RV tire debris can cause substantial damage to the RV body, holding tanks, electronics, and everything else that's run around the wheelwells.
04-07-2012, 12:46 PM
Bill N.Y.
The tires on my RV is at the 6&7yr mark. I'll be removing them and installing them on one of my service trucks to run them out of their useful life.


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04-07-2012, 04:34 PM
Don in Niagara
We had a rear blow out outside of Wilcox Arizona on I-10 coming home last spring. Sumotomas that had very few miles but were 9 years old. I had dodged some debris back near Tucson and I think that was the cause. Result was 4 new tires on the rear to match the new steer tires I had installed the summer before. Probably could have got away with just one replacement, but it's a long way from Wilcox to our house so why chance it?
As it was they found one chrystallized stud that snapped when removing one of the outer wheels.
Lucky that there is a truck tire shop right in town so all we needed to do was limp over to it, but (ouch!!)it still hurt come time to pay the Mastercard off.
We love our Barth!
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04-08-2012, 11:19 AM
RichieC
That's a beautiful coach. As for some of the comments here, I didn't expect trolls on B-mobile.
04-08-2012, 12:04 PM
bill h
quote:
Originally posted by Jim and Tere:
Would this be true of tires purchased new in 2005? That's when we bought our Goodyears and the coach has been garaged ever since except on those rare occasions when we use it, however, we take it out every month or so and drive it for 50 miles or so. Careful inspection shows no cracking or dry rot of any kind
Humbo


That monthly 50 miles is doing a lot to extend the tire life, but there are other variables such as load capacity, speed, heat, etc.


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