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A short diesel?
03-28-2012, 08:59 PM
RustyA short diesel?
Don's points are important - most 28'/30' Breakaways have very small basements. Only the '94+ 28's have decent basement compartments.
Most Breakaways (and some Regencies) have propane generators, a serious drawback (which is why I swapped mine for the Honda gaso) - 25 (usable) gals of LPG lasted around 28 hours. The Honda goes 75+ hours on a 25 gal tank.
While staying at an TV park allows the genset to be off, on the road, there are times the roof A/C is necessary. In addition, the LPG Kohler is VERY noisy.
All this points to a Regency.
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
03-28-2012, 09:05 PM
Mogan DavidConsider the name "BREAKAWAY"
It implies getting away for a trip, a vacation or a weekend NOT 4-5 months occupancy. Dr. and Mrs. Yale travelled extensively in the 30' BREAKAWAY I have now. I think they were very wise to have it made (and subsequently modified) the way they did.
The dinette provides additional sleeping space and a little additional storage space and even a place for the very good (albeit much added weight) safe.
The two closets are pretty good size, but not intended for 'full timing'.
By the way, the length limit in part of Yosemite was 21'
03-29-2012, 10:13 AM
Jim and TereDanny, yes we got the diagram. Thanks very much.
Humbo
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03-29-2012, 10:27 AM
Jim and TereWe have found our 28' Regal/454 fine for short trips within 150 miles of Knoxville. Even with that, we drive our little Cavalier so we have transportation if needed. Like this week we're at Lotterdale Cove Campground in Greenback,TN, and are playing golf at two or three different local courses. Driving the Barth to the golf courses just doesn't make sense.
The kind of travel we're anticipating is Massachusetts, Florida, maybe even out west if we get adventuresome, for maybe a month or so at a time. I just don't feel confident that the 27 year old 454 can pull a 4000# towed vehicle very efficiently. Yeah, I've seen them, too. But I guess I got spoiled the year I owned the 35' Dynasty. You can drive that thing for 10 hours and not feel stressed at all. Ten hours behind a 28' 454 and I'm about toast. I guess we just have to make sure that we'll use it.
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Jim Check this one. Sounds like what you are looking for.
Barth Coach/Motorhome - $18000 (St. Paul)
Date: 2012-03-21, 12:59PM CDT
Reply to: pxxwg-2891976112@sale.craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
For Sale is a 28' Barth Diesel Pusher Motorhome. The vehicle is powered by a turbocharged Cummins diesel engine mated to a Allison transmission pushing 190hp with the turbo.
Specifics include:
-6.3 LPG generator
-2 roof air conditioners, as well as dash a/c
-44 gallon freshwater tank
-2 holding tanks of 66 gallons
-2 color TVs
-Propane furnace
-hot water heater
-Large refrigerator/freezer
-2 burner stove top
-Convection microwave (new!)
-Roof vent
-Queen island bed with private bathroom
-oak interior
-Roof a/c with two fans (cold!)
Here is a link to a similar coach that sold for over $48k with two backup buyers!
http://www.classicdreamcars.com/BARTH.htmlThe vehicle has 96,000 miles on it and it is in very good condition and has been meticulously maintained. The reason for selling is that the owners are now in their 80s and don't get to use it as much anymore. This coach would have sold new in 1992 for over $125k. If you have any questions, please feel free to me let me know. I am posting this for my grandparents. The coach is currently in St. Paul (MN) but the owners are happy to show and/or deliver. Price is $18,000. Please email with questions and put "Barth 2012" in the subject line so I can differentiate spam. Serious inquires only.
motorhome, coach, rv, camper, cummins, allison, diesel
Location: St. Paul
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Dana & Lynn
1997 38ft Monarch front entry
Spartan Mountain Master Chassis
Cummins 8.3 325hp
Allison MD-3060 6 speed
22.5 11R
Cummins Factory Exhaust Brake
8000 watt Quiet Diesel Generator
9608-M0022-38MI-4C
Christened Midnight
1972 22ft
72081169MC22C
Christened Camp Barth
03-29-2012, 12:26 PM
Shadow man"The closets were not intended for full timing". I bet those closets are bigger than ours! We only have one closet in our bus and it measures 29x29 inches and would be square except one corner is angled so it is even smaller than that.

The PO full timed for 8 years and we are into our 9th year and get by just fine.....and no, we do not have a lot of cupboards, in fact we have very few.

03-29-2012, 01:15 PM
Marvin+DorisWhat are you all packing??? We travelled over 18'000 miles from FL to Alaska and back in a 28' Winnebago 454, had summer and winter clothes (incl down jacket), 100 lbs dog with 50lbs food bag, grill, smoker, bicycles, fishing gear, outdoor 2 burner stove, shoes, dinnerware, food, toileteries, detergent, books, magazines, dogbed for 100 lbs dog, vacuum cleaner, tools .....Never missed anything, there are laundry facilities, Walmarts, grocery stores for the rest. And towed a F150 pickup. Crossed the Rockies, Yellowstone, Banff, free packing classes by Master Packrat Doris

1999 Bluebird Custom 33' 8.3 Cummins diesel pusher
Former owner 1989 Barth Regal 25'
03-29-2012, 03:54 PM
Gary CarterWe lived in our 42.5' Newell for 8 years. It was a great coach for a full timer. Even so we had our garage in Yuma for some of the good stuff.
We started traveling in our 30' Breakaway the summer of 2007. We were in it for 5 months without a tow vehicle and really never felt crowded. Keep in mind that I have one chair and 1/2 the bed. We were traveling almost everyday. We sent one month on the southeast coast of Alaska hopping from ferry to town. Then a couple of months on the mainland of Alaska.
Summer of 2010 was 3.5 months in Canada with most in PEI and Newfoundland. Then to KY and MN for about 2.5 more months.
2011 was back east with family and friends for a total of 5 months.
Our lifestyle in the 30' Barth is active. Not much time to sit around.
So we lived in the Newell and travel in the Barth. Pick you life choices.
And in parting, the bigger the bays and closets, the more junk you carry.
'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
03-29-2012, 08:56 PM
dustyjeeperYou guys have closets?????

1978 Barth 17' Cabin Fever
1997 Barth 23' 4 door Command Center
03-29-2012, 09:05 PM
Mogan DavidWay to go, Dana. That's what Jim needs for sure
03-30-2012, 07:45 PM
w&bknockeOk Jim or anyone with experience. I assume it is the air suspension that makes the dynasty easy to drive. How would a Breakaway compare it's shorter and with the mechanical suspension. Would it compare to a 32 regency?
Wayne K
03-30-2012, 09:19 PM
RustyThe 28' Breakways (like mine) have an absurdly short wheelbase (~145" - 3" longer than my LWB Ford van).
Mine tracks like it's on rails, but a couple of owners of 30' have mentioned "wandering". Breakaways are all leaf spring, but some have air-assist. I don't know if that was a factory option or not.
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
03-30-2012, 10:54 PM
bud@YXYOur Breakaway has factory air suspension (Spartan IC-2242 chassis), it is however a longer Breakaway ---at 36 feet. In terms of storage, we live a 2- 3 months at a time without any significant problem.
1993 Breakaway 36ft & 1977 20 ft
Spartan: air ride and brakes & P32(?)
Cummins: 8.3 litre 250hp, PACBrake
Allison 3060 (6 spd)
Front entry, side hallway
7.5 kw diesel gen.
1999 2dr Tracker 4X4 5spd, SMI Braking system
03-30-2012, 11:14 PM
Bill N.Y.quote:
Originally posted by bud@YXY:
Our Breakaway has factory air suspension (Spartan IC-2242 chassis), it is however a longer Breakaway ---at 36 feet. In terms of storage, we live a 2- 3 months at a time without any significant problem.
Yep, you've got a big Breakaway.
Bigger engine - bigger lower storage compartments - Bigger chassis GVW. It's almost like a Regency in many respects.
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03-31-2012, 12:45 AM
RustyThere have been a few coaches called "Breakaways" that really fit no mold, being over 33' and sporting the Cummins 8.3L. And then there's the one labelled "Aristocrat" that resembles the Breakaways-on-Steroids.
It seems Barth started having naming convention issues around the '92-'93 model years. (Actually, before, as Bill N Y's "Regis" illustrates.)
Or maybe the name was a buyer option

Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields