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Well, we were planning to leave for the race in Brooklyn, MI at 10:00am on Thursday and actually left about noon. After meeting my mom in Gaylord to take 1-Thirteen year-old(Quentin) and 2- Schnauzers (Gretta & Doc), also replacing 2- 6-volt for 2- 12-volt Batteries. On our way the Generator quit, of course we discovered when stopping for gas 130 miles later it was just a low fuel situation(82.7 gals.).

As we came out of the gas station to get in the Barth there was a couple standing at the back of the coach. The man looked at Jeff and said "Do you know what that is?". His wife wondered out loud who owned it. And her husband explained that, what we were looking at was a Barth. So we invited them in to look around. She said she was jealous; They said they had always wanted a Barth; even toured the factory once. We said good-bye and they walked over to a Brand-new Newmar(38' pusher) and were on their way. Our friends that were following us were in awe over the whole thing.

We continued on and got to our campsite and set-up.

All and all everything went great. Still trying to figure out the 12V system. Jeff will go under the coach today to attempt tracking a short.

As we left the campground the brake caliper, on the drivers side steer, hung up. No place to pull over for several miles and evenually ground itself down. Stopped to try and get it repaired with no luck. I never realized how hard it is to get service on an RV. Truck stop wont work on it, Chevy dealer wont work on it. We limped her home and will do the work here. All the way down and back we saw no less then 8 newer RV's on the side of the road and the Barth just purred on past....going not a problem, just stopping.

 
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So we invited them in to look around. She said she was jealous; They said they had always wanted a Barth; even toured the factory once. We said good-bye and they walked over to a Brand-new Newmar(38' pusher) and were on their way. Our friends that were following us were in awe over the whole thing.
I know what you mean. My friends, who go with me to the races, are amazed at the same thing you just stated.


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Glad you made it and had a good time. In my original response to your bringing it home post, I told you, and now I'm screaming at you, IT'S NOT THE CALIPER!! OK, if you replaced all the rubber brake lines I stand corrected, but I have NEVER heard of a caliper sticking, but I've heard more rubber line nightmares than I can put in the space allotted. The caliper locks down on the disc and won't release, or releases very slowly, so the first thing everybody says is the caliper is sticking, when in reality the old rubber brake lines are swelled shut inside, holding the fluid in the caliper instead of allowing it to flow back to the reservoir. The reason it goes to the caliper in the first place is it's under a tremendous amount of pressure going in that direction, but under very little pressure returning. OK that's enough of being a repetetive nutcase. Hope to see you at Dega or Daytona sometime in the future, and enjoy that beautiful coach.


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Jeff and Joy, please listen to Danny. I had the exact problem on my Barth and it was the brake line. Replaced the brake line and never had another episode with sticking caliper.


Mary

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in reality the old rubber brake lines are swelled shut inside


Is this just an age factor or the result of something else?....fluid change, hard braking & hot fluid, etc?.....

I haven't had this problem....yet, but then again, I don't know how old my flex lines are either........
 
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Danny is right. It is usually not the caliper. Please change the hose first. It's cheaper then a caliper and if it doesn't work you'll still have a new hose on your new caliper. Wink


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Jeff told me he had checked all the brake lines and they were not sticking anymore. Will ask again, he is a 'former' Marine and does not take orders from 'civilians' very well.

Lets hope for his sake your no right Danny.

Would love to go to a race at another track someday!

And Lee, it could be an age factor, I know on Saturday morning my lines seemed a bit 'clogged', I think it was a combination of age, the Nu-tone blender, and Jose. lol
 
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He bled the brake lines and was getting plenty of fluid, this making it seem as the lines were clear. Jeff says we will put new a caliper ($24.00)and replace the lines; just to be safe.
 
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P30 calipers can drag, overheat, and even stick if not cleaned and properly lubed so they can slide left-to-right freely.


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Ok, one more post from the brake line freak. You either disconned a brake line or opened a bleader, then checked flow. Was the engine running? If so, the pressure was sufficient to show a good flow of fluid through the rubber hoses going to the caliper. I'm not trying to show what a brainiac I am here, I'm just trying to save you some unneeded expense, since I've been there, done that. Glad to hear you are replacing the lines. A good flush and bleed should fix you up for many years of racing. [Some of these people use their Barths for something else, but I haven't figured out why yet] ROTFLMAO


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Hey Danny, mine goes to the races. Radio Controlled Car races that is, does that count?


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Mary, I can't wait to have your classic parked next to ours at a GTG. The racing thing isn't that big of a deal, but I wish I could be there to see you woop up on these guys on the go cart track at the Choo choo GTG.


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No, No we appreciate whatever you've got. Keep the advice coming. Even if we know what should be done and it seems to obvious to post; every now and again we get a little over-whelmed and skip the easy fix. So, assume nothing!
 
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