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04-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Bruce & Kathleen
Breakaway Shocks
I am going to have the local diesel repair shop service my recently purchased 1993 Breakaway. I like to have a good reference point to start from. One of the things I would like to replace is the shocks. Does anybody know what might have been the OEM shocks on this unit? If it makes a difference, this unit was built in 10/92 on the Spartan EC2000 chassis. I have read quite a few on this site that replaced the originals with Bilstein's, so I am assuming they were not the OEM's. I have concern over the shock mounts with the Bilstein shocks, as I have read some interesting comments on that issue. Any info. or comments would be appreciated.
Thanks, Bruce


9303 3855 33BS 1B
Bruce & Kathleen
1993 33' Front Entrance Breakaway
230HP Cummins 5.9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Nicely Optioned
04-24-2007, 01:15 PM
bill h
quote:
I have concern over the shock mounts with the Bilstein shocks, as I have read some interesting comments on that issue. Any info. or comments would be appreciated.
Thanks, Bruce


Bilstein says the upper rear mounts on some P30s need reinforcing. That may be what you have read.

Spartan owners?

Perhaps a google of

"bilstein shocks" spartan

or just

bilstein spartan

would raise something.


.

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04-24-2007, 01:41 PM
MWrench
Just saw your post and I am on the road, don't have my library with me but I replaced all four shocks with Bilsteins. I had no trouble but I remember there are two different shock types for the EC2000 chassis.

I will be back home late tomorrow and will post the shock numbers then.

Mine is a 93/94 Breakaway.


Ed
94 30' Breakaway #3864
30-BS-6B side entry
New Cummins 5.9L, 375+ HP
Allison 6 speed
Spartan chassis
K9DVC
Tankless water heater
04-24-2007, 04:05 PM
Gary Carter
quote:
Barthmobile Home Page barthmobile.com Forums Hop To Forum Categories Imported Forums Hop To Forums Tech Talk Breakaway Shocks

The original equpment was Bilsten


'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
04-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Bill G
This is somewhat off track, but on my Regency, I have been thinking about shocks as well. It's not as though I have any reason for this, it is just that my coach now 15 years old. How do you determine if shocks are needed on a coach this heavy? I would bounce my car, but I can't bounce the Barth.

While driving it bounces a bit, but not more than two or three times when going over bumps. It seems that replacing them could improve the ride, but at the cost of Bilsteins, I would like to know that they were needed.

Bill G


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92 (Feb.) Regency 36ft
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Gillig Chassis (1990 build date)
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04-24-2007, 09:52 PM
Bill N.Y.
quote:
Originally posted by Bill G:
...How do you determine if shocks are needed on a coach this heavy?
If you see any oil seepage then replace them - never do just one - replace in pairs.

If all looks good then remove one of the upper or lower mounting bolts at each axle and see how it feels - Little to no resistance then replace - can't compress they should be ok. Other then that... you're just guessing.


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04-24-2007, 10:26 PM
Rusty
quote:
Originally posted by Bill G:
This is somewhat off track, but on my Regency, I have been thinking about shocks as well. It's not as though I have any reason for this, it is just that my coach now 15 years old. How do you determine if shocks are needed on a coach this heavy? I would bounce my car, but I can't bounce the Barth.

While driving it bounces a bit, but not more than two or three times when going over bumps. It seems that replacing them could improve the ride, but at the cost of Bilsteins, I would like to know that they were needed.

Bill G


Three times bouncing is too many. If the shocks are OEM, that would make them 15 years old. They're candidates for replacement based on both age and your report. Shock absorbers tend to be much more economical than body work.


Rusty


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04-25-2007, 07:20 AM
Bruce & Kathleen
Thanks to all who replied. Ed, I will await your follow up post on part numbers. I am going to replace mine for a couple of reasons. First, these are the originals and after 14 years and 100K+ miles, I am sure the ride will improve. Second, as Bill said, there is one that is starting to leak. My feelings are to replace them all. And if you are correct, Gary, then replacing the originals with Bilsteins are the way to go! Thanks again folks.
Bruce
p.s. As I get accustomed to my newly acquired Breakaway (and I am new to RV's), I am sure that I will have more questions for memebers. Please keep your eyes on these forums over the next few weeks.....


9303 3855 33BS 1B
Bruce & Kathleen
1993 33' Front Entrance Breakaway
230HP Cummins 5.9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Nicely Optioned
04-25-2007, 08:53 PM
Rusty
One thing that'll save you a lot of typing is to go to the "Go" tab at the top of any forum, then "Personal Zone"/"Profile", then "View/Edit Complete Profile" on the right. Scroll down to "Signature", and put in the year, model, engine, etc. for your Barth.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
04-25-2007, 11:04 PM
Bruce & Kathleen
Rusty,
I tried to get back to edit my profile, but that option is not there. I probably also need that to downsize my photo. Help!!!!!!!!
Bruce


9303 3855 33BS 1B
Bruce & Kathleen
1993 33' Front Entrance Breakaway
230HP Cummins 5.9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Nicely Optioned
04-25-2007, 11:06 PM
Bill N.Y.
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce & Kathleen:
I tried to get back to edit my profile, but that option is not there.
Anyone can Click on this.

BTW: What you see below this is my signature profile. I do not type this in all of the time. Cool


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8908 0128 40RDS-C1
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Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
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04-25-2007, 11:16 PM
Bruce & Kathleen
Bill,
Tried that, but it does not show anywhere to edit my profile.
Bruce


9303 3855 33BS 1B
Bruce & Kathleen
1993 33' Front Entrance Breakaway
230HP Cummins 5.9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Nicely Optioned
04-25-2007, 11:17 PM
Bill N.Y.
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce & Kathleen:
Bill,
Tried that, but it does not show anywhere to edit my profile.
Bruce
Upper right hand corner - I can not link it for you here.

It says...

View/Edit Complete Profile

It's right below your name - Welcome, Bruce & Kathleen [Logout]


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Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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04-25-2007, 11:29 PM
Bruce & Kathleen
I must have done something wrong somewhere along the line...there is nothing in the top right hand corner of my profile. Maybe when I tried to add a photo? Whether I use your link or just hit go above, I get to my profile and it says: Member Profile for Bruce & Kathleen---Above that it says: Welcome Bruce & Kathleen [Logout]---
Below that it says:
Date Registered: 01 April 2007
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Avatar / Picture URL: And it has that oversized photo I added

Location: New Jersey
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9303 3855 33BS 1B
Bruce & Kathleen
1993 33' Front Entrance Breakaway
230HP Cummins 5.9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Nicely Optioned
04-26-2007, 12:09 AM
Bill N.Y.
Sorry, I don't know what to tell you. I have set up several signature profiles for other members in the past and I host some sig profile pics as well.

I don't know why you can not see what I see? Confused

You should contact Dave Bowers or Bill H. Just be prepared to give them the password as they can not pull that info up.


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Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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