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I just purchased a 1971 21ft Barth ... that needs a lot of work, Does anyone know anything about the engine specs, or where I can find them? Thank you for your help! Patrick | |||
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350 or 454? . 84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered | |||
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Almost any gearhead can just look at the engine and tell you whether it's a small block or big block GM. Why not forward a picture? The problem with anything older and with an unknown past is knowing if it is the original. A small block Chevy will have a shelf just in front of one of the heads with an ID number stamped in it. With this you can trace its origin. I'm not sure where it is on a BB, but it is somewhere. A Google search will surely tell you. You will also score points here on Barthmobile if you send a photo of the data-tag. ![]() Formerly: 1997 Barth Monarch Now: 2000 BlueBird Wanderlodge 43' LXi Millennium Edition DD Series 60 500HP 3 stage Jake, Overbuilt bike lift with R1200GS BMW, followed by 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, “I haven’t been everywhere, but it’s on my list.” | |||
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21 footer from 1971 should be a 350. But, we have seen a few 402s from that era. Do you have a vin#? It is located next to the master cylinder. ![]() Do you have the "vehicle build number" of the coach? It is located outside the coach by the front left wheelwell - it could also be on a sales sheet. The number, as shown in the lower photo, would be formatted like this. 7103 0912 MC ![]()
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Agree it's probably 350, but if it's the BB, it should be from the 1965-74 Mark IV era, putting the engine numbers on the front of the block, just above the timing chain cover. | |||
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Wow, thank you for all of the help so fast, this is already proving to be a trying project! Vin: PE371J634640 also found this: 7108978MC ![]() ![]() ![]() More pictures will come tonight/tomorrow when I can get back to him. Quick story, found a post for $375 on craigslist, picked it up for $175, hoping to get it running,restore it and enjoy it! | ||||
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Small block, probably a 350 (but again, could be a swap). Color indicates it could be original. Can you get the engine number? It helps to use a little sandpaper to sand off the grime. ![]() Formerly: 1997 Barth Monarch Now: 2000 BlueBird Wanderlodge 43' LXi Millennium Edition DD Series 60 500HP 3 stage Jake, Overbuilt bike lift with R1200GS BMW, followed by 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, “I haven’t been everywhere, but it’s on my list.” | |||
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I will get in there tomorrow and find the engine number. Any recommendations on a carburetor? | ||||
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For 1967-72 Chev/CMC trucks: P = Forward Control E = V-8 gas (size unk) 3 = One ton 7 = cab-to-axle dimension (42"-47") 1 = 1971 model year J = assembled in Janesville, WI XXXXXX = sequential build #'s | |||
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Could you take a picture of this number and tell us where you found that? Excellent! Looking forward to seeing them.
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Looks like a Quadrajet set up to me, do you have the original? I would stay with the Q-Jet if it came with one. ![]() Formerly: 1997 Barth Monarch Now: 2000 BlueBird Wanderlodge 43' LXi Millennium Edition DD Series 60 500HP 3 stage Jake, Overbuilt bike lift with R1200GS BMW, followed by 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, “I haven’t been everywhere, but it’s on my list.” | |||
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We did not have the original carburetor, however have found a Rochester Quadrajet that we will hopefully be putting in tomorrow, while finding a battery and new cables (they've been cut) and working through the plugs and fuel/brake lines. **and taking lots of pictures** Any and all advice is much appreiciated, this RV sat for 4 years, looks like someone has clipped a few parts here and there so we are trying to figure out what we have, what we need and what is needed to make sure that we can get moving. | ||||
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Dump the intake manifold and get a Edlebrock Performer and a new Holley 650 carb and you will improve your power, mileage and not have the GM leaking casting plugs as on the Rochester. 1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof & 1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny | |||
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I would, at the very least, pull the intake manifold off. If everyone just willy nilly clipped wires, pulled parts off and stripped the engine... who's to say that a bolt isn't hiding out inside of the intake, waiting to be ingested into a cylinder. Look carefully before running this engine. Severe damage will result if the above scenario plays out.
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I agree with Bill. If you want a quick recognition of the engine look at the spark plugs, Small Blocks screw in straight and the big blocks are at a an angle to the side of the head. 1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof & 1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny | |||
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