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Speedhut gauges
01-13-2013, 10:11 AM
Steve VWSpeedhut gauges
Just got my new gauges from Speedhut.
My OEM tachometer was long gone. The old speedometer starts out 5 mph slow and ends up 2 mph fast after a few hours of running. The speedo cable is worn out and the needle bounces. I am also replacing the cruise control so I can get rid of the old cables entirely.
Speehut allows choices for diameter, range of the gauge, colors, pointer style, font, scale type, bezel type, etc. Also custom text!
The speedo is GPS driven: just power wires and a small antenna. The gauges are only about 1 inch deep, easy to install.
The original gauges are rather unique but at least I did get a decent match on color, bezel, pointer style and font.
The speedo will display trip, time, compass direction, elevation, peak speed, 1/4 mile time and 0-60 mph! I can't wait to get to the strip!
When I replace the gauges I will rewire the instrument panel, also replace the panel lights with small LED types. When it warms up I will be installing all the new goodies.
I think it was Bill NY who found speedhut. (Thanks to whoever it was)
9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
03-06-2013, 01:25 PM
Steve VWSince the weather here is so cold (65 degrees!

) and I only took a short ride on the motorcycle, I finally got around to working on the instrument panel.
Left side: wiper switch, light switch, wiper switch. Lots of wires... (Note the knob release button on the light switch, also the separate black wiring harness for lights.)
Right side has plenty of wires, too.
Center view: New gauges are only about 1 inch deep! Tach needs yellow wire to distributor, speedo needs GPS antenna plugged in.
I tightened up the wires on the back of the gauges, many were a bit loose. Tied the bundles together with nylon ties.
I replaced the bulbs in the gauges with LED types. You can also see where I wired in individual LEDs for the high beam, right and left signal indicators.
Replaced the partially melted panel backlight bulbs with LEDs also.
It is coming along. I rewired the rocker switches on the left. The "CLRNC LGT" switch now works, the other "lighted" switches were never "lighted" before, now they are. The AUX START switch is no longer a momentary contact type. (The fog lights still have not been installed, but the switch works!)
The speedo requires a GPS antenna. Since the windshield is so close to vertical, I figured the antenna would work better outside in the clear. Good news: the antenna is magnetic. Bad news: Barth is aluminum. I glued the antenna on the top of the driver mirror.
I still have the new cruise to install, the new compressed air system, and the new battery isolator.

9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
03-06-2013, 02:06 PM
RustyKewl!

Rusty
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03-06-2013, 03:30 PM
Bill N.Y.Very nice indeed...

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Nice
You must be down south somewhere! I sure am not getting anything done in Minnesnowta. 10 inches of snow again yesterday. AGGGGGGG

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03-06-2013, 08:58 PM
RustyHe's in the Conch Republic...
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
03-07-2013, 07:57 AM
Shadow manActually that was me that posted about these last April...

Glad they are working out for you, they look great!!

03-07-2013, 10:05 AM
Jim and TereVery nice. I have the old style dash and am not sure what to do about a tach and tranny temp gauge. For the time being, nothing. Got to get a bunch of other wiring issues figured out.
Jim and Tere
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03-07-2013, 10:05 AM
Steve VWThanks, I couldn't remember where the link came from. So far these are nice.

Below the instrument panel is my next challenge, there is a rat's nest of wiring of unknown function, waiting to tease me with intermittent tricks. I'm going to sort it out and lace up the wires when I hook up the brake wires for the cruise control.

9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
03-07-2013, 11:57 AM
Dick Dubbsquote:
Only something like 4175 days to retirement!
Hang in there Buddy!

Only something like 6400 days since retirement!

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03-12-2013, 06:25 PM
Jim and TereSteve, where did you get the electronic speed control unit? Do you have to have an electronic speedometer to make it work?
Jim
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03-12-2013, 07:06 PM
Steve VWJim I have a Dakota Digital aftermarket cruise from Summit racing. It is all electric, no vacuum hoses etc. It comes with a speed sensor which connects at the transmission between the existing speedo cable and the trans. In my case I'll not be using the cable any more.
I just got it out today, I'll be installing it in the next few days. Photos will follow. I won't be able to test it until I leave at the end of the month on the way to Raccoon Mountain. See you there with more details!
9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
03-12-2013, 09:23 PM
Jim and TereSteve, did you upgrade your speedometer to an electric GPS system? If so, I guess you used a Dakota system designed for an electric speedometer.
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03-12-2013, 09:52 PM
Steve VWDakota sells several models.
The ones for the newer cars do not need a speed sensor, they just have a single "VSS" wire to pick up the signal from the car's computer.
The ones for the older rigs with cable speedometers come with an adapter which installs in line with the cable. The adapter has an internal rev sensor and a cable to connect to the cruise module. This is the model I'm using, with the adapter attached to the trans. I won't be using the rest of the cable any more.
The cruise unit itself is the same, just gets its speed signal from a different source.
This unit is adjustable for sensitivity (gain) and response time (rate) I am hoping I can get it to hold speed well and respond properly to hills, etc.
I will start a new thread with photos probably tomorrow.
9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
04-12-2013, 09:41 AM
Steve VWI fired up and ran back from Florida. The new gauges are excellent.
The speedo is rock steady and within 1 mph almost all the time. (Sometimes when I'm under an overpass it jumps very slightly. I suspect it would have a fit in a tunnel)
The tach is also very good.
I'm pleased with these gauges. Easy to install, custom graphics, good performance. A bit pricey but not too bad.
9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp