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Now that only ULSD is available around here, what are the choices of additives/sulfer replacers do people favour for our old diesels? Or do most just go with straight ULSD?
We will be off to AZ. in a month or so and would like to treat the big Cummins with what is best. She goes in next week for a complete service and check up.
Thanks in advance.
Don


1990 Regency 34'
Cummins 6CTA 8.3 240hp
Spartan Chassis,
4 speed Allison MT643
 
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Bill NY gave me the name of an excellent fuel additive. Check with his for the details.


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I have always been a big fan of FPPF Products.

For the older injection pumps, that are trying to run on the newer fuel, I recommend the LUBRICITY PLUS FUEL POWER Here is the MFG Blurb for this.
quote:
Year Round Diesel Treatment
Lubricity Plus Fuel Power is a high effective formula specifically formulated to provide significant performance benefits in all diesel fuels, including ultra low sulfur diesel and bio-diesel fuel blends.

Lubricity Plus Fuel Power is a year round diesel fuel treatment that combines the benefits of Fuel Power and a lubricity additive that exceeds the A.S.T.M. B.O.C.L.E. standards.

Used regularly, Lubricity Plus Fuel Power can offer the following benefits:

* Contains a high concentration of superior lubricity improver.
* Helps prevent piston fuel pump wear.
* Improves fuel cetane.
* Exceeds HFRR and B.O.C.L.E. Lubricity standards.
* Contains No Alcohols!
* Helps prevent rotary fuel pump wear.
* Improves engine starting.
One 32 oz. Bottle, part #90105 treats 250 gallons.



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Bill, do you still recommend this product? Being a 'newbie' to older diesels, trying to get up to date. I've read some more recent posts about 'ashless 2-cycle motor oil from Walmart'.


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I have used this stuff for 2 years and I really like it. My toad seems cleaner since I have used it and if you order directly from fppf, you get an excellent case price. Also, 32 ounces of FPPF treats 250 gallons of Diesel fuel so it is very economical.


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I pick up FPPF when I'm in Jax; there's no local supplier. I use 2-cycle engine oil, 8oz./30 gal.


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MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

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Rusty, where do you get FPPF in Jax?

Thanks.

Tom Taylor
 
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I use Walmart Super Tech TC-W3 Outboard 2-Cycle Oil. 1 Gallon costs about $12. I use 1/2-1 oz. per gallon.


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WHY??? you can get a good additive that takes out water, fights algae and gets lubrication for $7.99 (FPPF) to $15.99 (Howes) a bottle, that will treat 250 Gallons... and we do get better fuel mileage. Tested in our semi trucks over 16 years and a million plus miles.


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Are you talking about the FPPF product Bill mentions above? When I was checking all the testing of additives for balancing out the low sulfer in the diesel fuel quite a while ago, the Walmart oil I mention was the best bang for the buck. Most everything else was quite more expensive as an additive (price per gallon). Maybe the FPPF has come down in price, maybe you can buy it at better price by bulk, maybe it is a new product that wasn't around when I was checking before?


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Originally posted by tom taylor:
Rusty, where do you get FPPF in Jax?

Thanks.

Tom Taylor


I'm not making this up: Taylor Diesel Service, 228-400 N. Myrtle (904) 356-2641


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

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Interesting thread. I have not used this product, but, bought Lucas oil diesel injection cleaner and fuel stabilizer (treats 100 gal, size of our tank) and ran it to Ohio last summer. Was amazed!!! best mileage ever, 11mpg towing an enclosed trailer. I did have soot on the trailer and figured it was normal for a diesel. It does not use oil.

Bill, does this product provide any protection against algae with biodiesel? A friend with an old Mercedes Benz had a huge issue with this last winter. The car was parked for 2 months getting a new transmission and unfortunately, had to get injectors and a tank flush to get it going again.
I have run biodiesel in the Barth several times with no known issues.

Thanks!


Brian and Janet
'93 Regency 36 ft
Cummins 8.3, Allison 6 speed, diesel genset, 100 gal. tank... OUCH$$$
Spartan Mountain Master Chassis
 
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I sometimes think "More Is Better" Can you cause a problem if you miss calculate and add too much?
Any downside? I would like to try the FPPF.......


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Algae treatment should be done with a product made for that. FPPF does have a product designed for that.

A little more FPPF won't cause a problem but is wasteful in the wallet. You're not getting more by using more. Now, if you use "Way Too Much" then there might be an adverse condition. But, that would be with anything I suppose.


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