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hi folks !have any of you run out of diesel fuel?it must be hell,just imagine stalling unexpectively,probably having to call for road assistance,then comes the chore of venting the fuel at every injector,i believe cats are easier to purge.what caused this?defctive gauge-not monitoring generator use-taking a gamble hoping to top off at next station.this is the reason I wouldn't switch from lp gas,besides one needs it for furnace,stove and fridge.i carry a cheater hose which I have used a few times,transfering from an easy to get a 20 pounder(invert tank)as one of our barthers quotes you don't get old by being stupid iwill add Lucky!wally proud owner of 34ft barth.van isle.
 
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Wally,
Most diesel and gas generators have a fuel pickup higher than the engine pickup. The generator will run out of fuel long before the tank runs dry. LP is a fine fuel until you try to start in extremely cold weather. LP won't go from liquid to gas state and then you need an in-line heater to warm the LP up. Additionally, propane has the least amount of energy per gallon producing just 73% of that of a gallon of gasoline. Diesel has 113% per gallon of the energy of gasoline. So diesel is far better in space and carry weight compared to propane. Then there's the added weight of the heavy and large propane cylinder. And finally, there is a larger safety issue with gasoline or propane. And finally, finally, diesel engines last 5X as long.

It's great you love your propane, but you put out a bit of a challenge with your "story" that doesn't paint a complete picture. Especially since no one I've ever heard of has run there fuel tank dry by running their diesel generator and you can just as easily run out of propane or gas if you're being silly running on empty. I fill up about twice a year with my 300 gal diesel tank. Sorry my friend Sorry




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Wally,
Most diesel and gas generators have a fuel pickup higher than the engine pickup. The generator will run out of fuel long before the tank runs dry. LP is a fine fuel until you try to start in extremely cold weather. LP won't go from liquid to gas state and then you need an in-line heater to warm the LP up. Additionally, propane has the least amount of energy per gallon producing just 73% of that of a gallon of gasoline. Diesel has 113% per gallon of the energy of gasoline. So diesel is far better in space and carry weight compared to propane. Then there's the added weight of the heavy and large propane cylinder. And finally, there is a larger safety issue with gasoline or propane. And finally, finally, diesel engines last 5X as long.

It's great you love your propane, but you put out a bit of a challenge with your "story" that doesn't paint a complete picture. Especially since no one I've ever heard of has run there fuel tank dry by running their diesel generator and you can just as easily run out of propane or gas if you're being silly running on empty. I fill up about twice a year with my 300 gal diesel tank. Sorry my friend Sorry
Don I fully agree with you, run with what you got,and make the best of it.In my climate propane suits me fine,also it must of suited the previous owner who installed a 60 gallon as he went to the dessert for months at a time,A big turn of with diesel are the fumes,which I see are rectified by mickey mouse pipes,mostly held by the rear view mirror.Ilove the barth network,as we can voice our opinions to other barthers without any hard feelings wally proud owner of 34ft monarch van-isle.
 
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Yes, the Breakaway ran out of fuel near Effingham, IL on my way back from getting it in Mesa, AZ. That was when I learned about the side-fill Barth tank that is effectively 40gal, NOT 60. Was able to restart by cranking a few times, even though road service poured a ridiculously small amount of fuel in.
 
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A lot of folks use a Genturi tube to disperse fumes up high, but my Wanderlodge has both the generator and the Detroit fumes routed out the top from the factory. A nice feature. If I were boondocking for long periods, I'd think LP with a good solar system would work best.




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Correction on propane. It will still vaporize to -40. If you have butane it remains a liquid at about +35F. So if you got filled up in the south, you may have butane. There has been more than one RVer heading north that had their furnace and other LP appliance start failing. We had a bus with a 7KW Kohler generator that would start at -20F. Did that one January in Minneapolis to head out to AZ to warm up.


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