I am beginning to explore the idea of selling my Barth, one of the only two aristocrat models built in 1994. Anyone have an idea of how much I should ask? Thanks, Richard

10K would sell it quick.
20K and it will be for sale for a while.
Somewhere in the middle?

stuallen had a similar 33'. ~50K mi., asked $19K. Just sold last month.

Anyway, yours is one I'd seriously consider, having really liked the one Lou bought, and knowing it's been kept up. The only thing I don't like about Breakaways is the propane generator...

Mine also has a screen porch and comes with tools, two new LED TV's, a three year old Breakbuddy and some spare parts. Also, had the generator rebuilt several years ago.

Hi Richard,

It's been awhile!

Sorry to see you might be selling your Barth, for our (few) get togethers were memorable occasions.

Pricing is truly a study in economics and human relations. Here on the Barth site we see many a Barth pass by, and, after awhile, take them for granted. Yet, if you reflect on the fact that there are few motorhomes in general out there that come anywhere near the quality of a Barth, you start to realize that a Barth in well-kept condition will have a higher value than most units of equal vintage because of its original higher quality construction and subsequent good maintenance.

It then boils down to the care and maintenance your Barth had while you owned it. I, for one, feel it is imperative that all necessary maintenance be done as either the books or experience dictate. That way you can sell the coach knowing you did everything you could to maintain its integrity, and you shouldn't have to drastically capitulate on the price. When you consider that one can get into a well-maintained Barth for a mere fraction of its original selling price, and that the price, when compared to lesser units newly manufactured has no match, there is no better bargain to be had.

If, on the other hand, maintenance is allowed to slide, you are vulnerable to offers that are based on the fact that the maintenance, which is always cumulative in its needs, will have to be aggressively done by the new owner in order to catch up in having a well-maintained unit once again. Add to all of this the fact that ongoing maintenance, expensive as it can sometimes be, rarely adds significantly to the price to be had. It's necessary to keep the same status in the unit and does not represent bells & whistles to crow about. Take the new TV units you've installed. What's the option, old units that need converters to get the HD offerings out there now? If your coach has two TVs, so be it. But so does just about every other RV out there. Only the ones who don't have the newer TVs will affect the price of the entire unit. And the price will be less; not more. Same with tires: good if they are brand new, and that could sway a prospective buyer, but to add the value of the tires to the asking price simply won't work. It's supposed to have good tires.

How you price your unit is going to have to take all this into consideration, a complicated determination for any seller. In the end, the coach is worth what the next owner will pay for it compared to what the seller will accept. Nothing more; nothing less.

Once you've decided on a price you believe represents your coach, stand your ground. But that means you have to be prepared to walk away from lesser offers. Do that enough times and it might be just what you need to adjust your price, a process that will surely follow if you go through the gyrations first.

Best regards,

Lou

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The only thing I don't like about Breakaways is the propane generator...

I agree Rusty, although propane generators are usually quieter than diesels they will burn up a lot of expensive fuel. I always have to plan well in advance to locate fuel, not easy. I have over 4000 hours on my set now.

Was going to convert mine to gasoline, easy conversion but I can not locate parts for this gen set any longer. the source Schwalm in So CA threw away most of the remaining parts. Engine parts are still available but hard to locate.

Richard good luck with selling, we will talk soon.

Ed: If a person has a gas coach they can get the number off the carb on the generator and get a rebuild kit that will convert it back to gas.
Failing that PPL and many others have new carbs of the gas variety that will fit Onan, B&S and others. Just need an electric lift pump from the fuel tank ($50), some new lines and the change will be done. For your coach you might consider Colaw's or a marine junk yard for a diesel engine. As long as it will run at 1800 rpm the generator doesn't care what is spinning it. Could be a fun weekend project.

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For your coach you might consider Colaw's or a marine junk yard for a diesel engine. As long as it will run at 1800 rpm the generator doesn't care what is spinning it. Could be a fun weekend project.

Tom,
Maybe outside my threshold at the moment. But wow I love when others see outside the box. A possible for down the road.

As has been said many times--- for Barth there was no "standard"--- so in holding true to that principle, our Breakaway has a diesel generator. Not quiet but so far very reliable (starts whenever it is summoned).

Bud

Hi Bud. So true, it does seem however that most shorter Breakaways, 32' or less had propane generaters. Not much space for a generator or noise reduction techniques in the shorter units. Propane/gasoline units are generally smaller for the same KW output as diesels units. Gas units would require a third tank for fuel.

I have been trying to source a small diesel unit that would fit where the Kwyatt 7.0 unit is but I will have to raise the floor as most diesel units are too tall but only by a couple of inches.

Power Source sell one but it is a constant speed unit and I would prefer an inverter variable speed type. I will keep looking!

Sorry for keeping the thread drift going!

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Originally posted by bud@YXY:
As has been said many times--- for Barth there was no "standard"--- so in holding true to that principle, our Breakaway has a diesel generator. Not quiet but so far very reliable (starts whenever it is summoned).

Bud

Barth made a few "Breakaway XLs"; kind of a Monarch-Regency hybrid. Many Monarchs had propane gensets, some had diesels. More confirmation that Barth was flexible both in equipment and naming conventions.

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