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Injector "tips"
07-10-2012, 10:39 PM
w&bknockeInjector "tips"
I was talking to an old diesel mechanic. He said you could replace the "tips" on the injectors to ge a hotter burn and more power. Anyone heard of this for an upgrade
Wayne
07-10-2012, 10:42 PM
Mogan DavidDon't f__k with the injectors. Change the entire unitized part.
07-10-2012, 11:31 PM
RustyAgree.
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
07-11-2012, 12:57 PM
Gary CarterIf you are keeping the 542 transmission, get a set of 230hp injectors and a #11 fuel plate.
'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
07-11-2012, 03:22 PM
RustyIIRC, when I visited Vince (the PO), the documentation showed the engine had been bumped to 215 HP.
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers
Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke
It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
07-11-2012, 08:47 PM
w&bknockeRusty: The paperwork Vince gave me said cummins installed 210 hp injectors. I'm going to go back to 8R tires as at 2400 now I'm only going 55 mph. I can get to about 65 at 2700 but I don't think It is wise to run on the governor.
Gary: I have found a mechanic that will install a allison 2000 5 spd if I can get the programing part. If I do that I don't have to worry about the trans. Did you change injectors on your?
Thanks for all your comments
Wayne
07-11-2012, 09:48 PM
Jim and TereIf a person wanted to upgrade their '91 Breakaway to a 5-speed transmission, which of the Allison transmissions would you use? Let's assume that the engine is no more than 230HP. Would the engine RPMs drop enough to make a noticeable diff in fuel economy? Would it be more sensible to just drive at 55mph?
Jim
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07-12-2012, 10:32 AM
Gary CarterDo a search for transmission upgrade in this forum. Most of the information needed is there.
If buying a 1000/2000 series transmission make sure you get the wiring harness. And yes the 1000 will work.
And you can not justify this conversion based on money or mpg. But I would never go back to a 542. The best part of the conversion was the lockup convertor. My 542 used to overheat in the mountains and I would have to stop and let it cool down. Oh and I like traveling 70mph out on the freeways, but I don't let it go into 5th until about 60+ (rpms to low).
The one thing I didn't talk about in transmission upgrade was the overdrive switch on the dash. Keeps it in 4th gear.
BTW I have an extra TCM if needed. Been going to put it back on ebay but a little slow.
'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
07-12-2012, 11:58 AM
Jim and TereThanks for the link. Sounds like upgrading to a 6-speed is rather expensive. Better to buy one that already has it installed. In the meantime, with my 5.9 that has been bumped up to 190 HP, it appears that a good cruising range is around 1800RPM. What would the speed be at that level. Tires are 8R19.5. I'm guessing around 55mph.
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07-12-2012, 02:27 PM
Gary CarterWith the 542 and 3.73 final, 1800rpm gives you 47mph. Need 2100rpm to do 55mph.
'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
07-12-2012, 05:53 PM
Jim and TereWould you think that 2100 RPM is a safe/efficient motor speed? Fuel economy is not my concern. I like the engine to be comfortable.
Jim
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07-12-2012, 09:45 PM
w&bknockeI think the operating range is 1800-2400. If that is incorrect PLEASE let me know
07-12-2012, 09:49 PM
w&bknockeOh btw Gary I have turner classic movies on my cable, or was that something else I don't know about.
As far as price it looks like about 1/2 of what you paid for the coach should cover it.
Wayne
07-13-2012, 12:57 AM
MWrenchWhen I am running 75 MPH I am running 2150 RPM with the 225 tires. Smooth and getting about 10 MPG. I only do this in the flat lands sometimes. Now I try to stay 70 MPH or less but still get about the same MPG. I can only get better MPG if I go 60 MPH and no wind, then I get about 11.4-11.8 MPG.
Problem is I can go that slow, it just seems to be the best about 70 MPH @ 2000 RPM.
Changing to a 6 speed would be a LOT of WORK! Further, for those of you that have a 4 speed your rear diff is 3.73 and that would have to be changed to 4.1 or numerically higher to take advantage of all of the ranges of the 6 speed.
Ed
94 30' Breakaway #3864
30-BS-6B side entry
New Cummins 5.9L, 375+ HP
Allison 6 speed
Spartan chassis
K9DVC
Tankless water heater
07-13-2012, 09:27 AM
Jim and TereSo, the engine 'likes' 2100RPM
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