Ok everyone, I replaced my battery with one from Sams Club(Walmart) and all systems go for the GTG---WRONG. Alright ,yes the battery is great and it starts great , however went to the local propane place and the guy started filling my tank and a leak gas happen. He stopped the filling with only 3.5 in. I went under the Barth and found one of the braided lines (a long one) hissing away. Just a small leak seaping thru the braided line.
I don't think I can get it fixed before the GTG, however we will still make it-- just won't have hot water or a gas stove.
Any suggestion for a quick fix???
Jim

Working with and around LP is never a "quick fix" and I highly recommend a suitable repair, sounds like a hose replacement is in order. Patch jobs on LP hoses are not a good idea---ever---. Sorry to sound condescending but I have a profound respect for LP and it's power!

Please shut it down (LP valves) until suitable repairs have been made!!

HTH

I've had LP high pressure hose repairs (new hose) done by my local fireplace shop. They install LP devices and have the equipment and supplies to make hoses.

Luckily we have hot showers and plenty of other cooking accessories available at Hillsborough. Just make sure the LP is completely shut down at the tank, and get there!

Where is it located?

The Uniform Plumbing Code is almost nationally used to deal with the delivery of propane (and other stuff as well) and it requires rigid copper pipe between all permanent fittings. Hoses are only used for short connections, such as a barbecue or heater. You should replace any rubber or flexible hoses with rigid copper and use the ANSI approved fittings throughout. Your local quality RV shop of any plumber cab guide you. You don't want to risk a fire.

There isn't anyway I felt like anyone was condescending because of the wording I used. I am very cautious about matters of explosions and fire. At one time I worked for a year as a firefighter, it isn't fun dealing with those things.
Perhaps I should of said "is there an easy way to safely fix this".
I went to the local RV shop and asked if they could get the Barth in and out before leaving for the GTG and the answer was no. They were backed up with RV's needing repair.
I did find out that I could replace the braided line with copper tubing and use short braided lines at the areas of flexing or vibration. Another thing that was told to me is those long braided lines of any coach that old should be check and really should be replaced with copper lines. They are not sure about finding the correct replacements that long. So all of you should check those braided lines.

We still have electric to the frig. and microwave---ahhh tv dinners--haha.
I will be looking under the Barth tomorrow to see if I could run a copper line with two new shorty flex lines. If it is too involved I'll just wait until I get back.

Jim

I went to fill my LP tank a couple of months ago and had the same thing happen. They got about 3-4 gallons in when the "Fill Line" [from the fill fitting to the tank fill] began leaking right in the middle of the hose.

Fortunately, there is a place in town who converts vehicles to use propane. This place is about 3 minutes from the gas station where I purchase LP.

Pulled into their lot. Climbed under and removed the braided line [about 5 feet in length]. Took-it indoors and they were able to remove the ends from the original line and install them on a new length of line. They charged-me 25 bucks.

Re-installed the line with a little help from their staff and ran back to the gas station to fill the tank. I think the whole process took about an hour from the time I left home and was back home again -then- on my way out-of-town.

Not sure about replacing braided with rigid in all applications. The guys at the propane conversion place did not indicate that this was incorrect or required(???)

It's a short run and takes a number of bends to get from port side to the tank. It is zip-tied at a couple of locations, otherwise it "free-floats" most of the run. This is the "fill line" only, so it typically does not have fuel flowing thru-it during household use.

The only place where braided would be allowed would be to an item that vibrated, like a generator. Mine has a short run of copper to galvanized pipe. I replaced the LPG generator with gaso, so I pulled the last tee (for the HW heater) and capped the pipe there. I ended up replacing the soft copper from the tees to the reefer and the furnace because they were inaccessible, and couldn't be inspected.

The only high pressure gas is between the tank and the regulator.

Rusty- sorry I forgot to answer your question where it is located.
Well it is the same one that Mac (Medic37) just told me happen on his.

Mac- Thanks for the reply. It sounds almost like mine and it may be possible for me to get it fixed before the GTG.

Jim

As I recall, most of mine is galvanized, except for at the generator and the "fill line" as mentioned previously.

I hope it was acceptable to have replaced this line with braided, as this is what [I'm assuming] was originally installed by BARTH(???)

Well---on my Breakaway, I have a braided line running all the way from the propane tank in the rear to the front of the the coach to the generator, it is liquid propane in that line but it is the way it came from Barth. It will be changed in the near future to black iron piping from near the tank to the generator and then I will use the appropriate flexible tubing to connect to the tank and generator, be it copper or other.

I have always been concerned if I rear end someone or get into an altercation involving the front of the coach that this line is right out there and could be cut by some external force. There is a flow volume valve that "should" cut off the liquid propane if the flow rate exceeded the predetermined rate but---that valve along with the tubing is 14 years old, who knows if it even works??!!

So much for all the National regulations regarding handling of LPG and the requirement of piping/hoses!

BTW, when the valve on the tank to the generator is shut off, I can run the generator for about 10 minutes before it will shut down due to lack of fuel, that is a lot of energy in a 30' line!

Mine came with a flex hose from regulator to the black iron pipe 2 feet away. This is handy, because we carry a spare propane jug for extended stays, and it saves saddling up and going to town for a fill up.

For housing they only allow black pipe or stainless steel for LP in AZ. In MN they also allow soft copper. Nowhere that I know allows ridgid copper.

And in RVs rubber is also allowed and works great. That is what I used when we converted a bus years ago. This cures both flexing and vibration concerns. Just need to keep on eye on it and check it regularly for ageing.

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Originally posted by Gary Carter:
In MN they also allow soft copper.

Old time mechanics were always careful to provide a 360-degree loop in copper line if there was even the slightest possibility of flex or vibration-induced work-hardening.

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And in RVs rubber is also allowed and works great.

Lots of racing associations allow only a short length of rubber fuel line here and there. It would follow that keeping rubber usage to a minimum would be a good idea for propane, as well.