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Does anyone have any suggestions for removing a broken stud???
Camping World has the Barth to put on new rear tires. They removed the outer left wheel ok however when trying to removed the inner wheel a stud broke off and they cannot seem to free it up to remove the rest of it. They are considering using a torch to heat the stud for removel while running water on the wheel to protect it.

Does this sound ok???

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After 4 1/2 hours the stud is out. The torch idea worked. Now they will put in a new stud and I should have it back by late this afteroon.
Also I had them replace all the "bud studs" ,I don't know if that is the right word, the mechanic suggested it for safety reasons.

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I had to replace all of my Budd bolts on the rear because of the careless use of an impact wrench, probably why yours were compromised.

The mechanics suggestion is spot on because if one was damaged probably the others are as well. I would have the other side checked. This particularly important if yours has only 6 Budd bolts/wheel!

I am NOT in favor of using heat on wheel studs or wheel assemblies, they can be removed without heat if proper tools are used.


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Originally posted by Jim & Barb Rustige:
"bud studs" ,I don't know if that is the right word
Close enough. It's Budd studs and refer to the inner nuts. There is a wheel stud - followed by a Budd stud - followed by a Budd nut.
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...because of the careless use of an impact wrench, probably why yours were compromised.
Wrong rotation? The studs on the left hand side is left hand rotation. Righty loosey, lefty tighty.

It is opposite of the way most wheels are removed. Normal way is righty tighty, lefty loosey.

It's possible that the tire guy could have tried to loosen it but instead tighten it up and snapped it off.

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I had to replace all of my Budd bolts on the rear because of the careless use of an impact wrench, probably why yours were compromised.



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Geeze! I can't tell how much aggravation (and worse) tire shop employees have caused me and mine with impact wrenches. I am now at the point where I never travel without a torque wrench so if I have a tire shop visit on the road I can be sure that my lugs are done right.

I am not a Luddite, but I believe an impact wrench should only be used in reverse. Or forward torque should be limited to no more than nut running. When I worked, our engine shop used no torque limiters, no tork-sticks, no clutches, nothing but manual torque wrenches for final torquing. Everything else failed approval. Back in the Hamilton Standard days, we tried everything to avoid the very laborious hand torquing of prop domes. Nothing we or anyone else cobbled up was as accurate and reliable as the manual Sweeny torque wrench.


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All you guys got it right on the head. The shop guy (about 35+) said the same thing and yep he was taking them off the right way.
He said it looked like that last guy went impact
tork crazy. He said they were torked up way too tight. On the one that was siezed up he had to use a large air impact which he said he never uses for lugs. He even tried to first use a large hand wrench to the point it started to bend.
Anyway I did have them put on new budds on both sides.
Thanks again, Jim
 
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