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01-13-2010, 05:38 PM
Doug Smiley
diesel additive??
Increase mileage 3 - 5 % ??

http://www.freel2.com/forum/to...8.html?highlight=oil


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01-13-2010, 06:47 PM
MWrench
This is exactly what I do, I use 2 stroke oil with diesel fill up and use about the same ratio as was talked about! 200:1

I have noticed a slight improvement in mileage although it is hard to say by how much. I did not notice a decrease in noise but the engines they are talking about are not heavy truck engines.

2 stroke has a higher BTU rating then diesel so it make sense that a slight increase in mileage would occur. Further, as 2 stroke oil is designed to be "burned" in the combustion chamber, it will not leave residue that other oils such as ATF will.


Ed
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01-14-2010, 06:07 AM
rp's barth
how does that figure out per gallon I have a Super Duty Ford I would like to try it on, it holds about 35 gallons. and coming from the marine industry do you use a TCW 3 rated oil? That was what was required on Johnson /Evinrude engines in the late 90's and early 2000's i haven't kept up much since then,


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01-14-2010, 02:36 PM
StinkyDaddy
I don’t know if this is relevant to use with diesel… but I use a synthetic 2 stroke oil in my chainsaw that is made for motocross racing, Motul (Brand) Off Road 800 Factory Line ester 2T. I get it from my local motorcycle shop. I can’t tell you how it will work with your diesel engine, but it makes a chainsaw rock and roll!

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01-14-2010, 05:14 PM
Ed Chevalier
Here's the math (correct me if I'm wrong). 35 gallons = 140 quarts, using a ratio of 200:1, 140 divided by 200 = .7 quarts of 2 stroke oil, .7 quarts = 22.4 ounces per tankful or 5.6 ounces per quarter tank


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01-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Rusty
USLD is supposed to contain some lube additives. I add 16 oz./~30 gal. of 2-cycle oil; this is the same ratio specified by the Stanadyne additive, which has lower viscosity.


Rusty


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'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

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01-14-2010, 08:39 PM
robert and kimberly delucia
running 80% waste dino oil! hydralic ,transmission ,motor oil thur 91 ford f350 , tractor , coach and, generator .. here's a link http://www.oilburners.net/forums/index.php dewatered and filtered to 10 microns
01-14-2010, 11:35 PM
Rusty
10 microns isn't fine enough. Keep in mind that waste oil has contaminants one doesn't want in IPs or combustion chambers.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
01-16-2010, 10:16 AM
Richard_Muise
So the 2 cycle oil replaces the cethane boost stuff sold by NAPA?


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01-16-2010, 12:36 PM
Rusty
NAPA sells two types of additive, one with lube, one without.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
01-16-2010, 12:39 PM
Moonbeam-Express
quote:
NAPA sells two types of additive, one with lube, one without.

Rusty,

Is there any advantage to the one without lube? Why do they offer both?




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01-16-2010, 07:04 PM
Stratosurfer
I am using Walmart brand 2 stroke oil .5oz per gallon. $10.00 per gallon
I just noticed a new lube additive at O'Reillys and read the label, it requires .5 oz per 5 gallons. About $16.00 per half gallon, math works out to research this additive.


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01-16-2010, 09:49 PM
Rusty
quote:
Originally posted by noble97monarch:
quote:
NAPA sells two types of additive, one with lube, one without.

Rusty,

Is there any advantage to the one without lube? Why do they offer both?


Both have a pour point suppressant (read: Anti-gel); if that's all that's needed, it's a bit cheaper. Both also have some other additives.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
01-16-2010, 09:57 PM
Moonbeam-Express
Thanks Rusty.

I'm not sure if it's because we are in the Tampa area where there are a lot of large boats, but I've seen ads lately for fuel polishing by the gallon. I didn't realize this could be done as a "service".




Formerly: 1997 Barth Monarch
Now: 2000 BlueBird Wanderlodge 43' LXi Millennium Edition DD Series 60 500HP 3 stage Jake, Overbuilt bike lift with R1200GS BMW, followed by 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited,
“I haven’t been everywhere, but it’s on my list.”
01-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Rusty
I have yet to figure out what "fuel polishing" really is.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields