Greetings: I just joined, presently own a Prevost Liberty conversion, a 1979 35 foot model one of only about 30 in existence. Looking for something newer, a bit more economical, cleaner, and if possible smaller.

I have a compass that is broken, I head to ski areas rather than beaches in the winter, skiing out of Bozeman Montana. Therefore I need a well insulated coach. I searched 18 pages to try and find out how the 90's Regency's and above are insulated, and can't find any information. There is a reference in an ad about a widebody regency with double insulation in the walls and ceiling, but nothing about the insulation is or how thick. So did Barth use foam either sprayed or rigid in the newer coaches, and if so how thick in walls, ceiling, and floor - and of course what does double thick mean?

Thanks all

Chuck

PS If Tamara's coach was available I would be all over it.

Welcome to the Forums!

The newer coaches generally have a compact fiberglass insulation, about 1" thick. I'm not familiar with "double insulation", but the standard is quite effective.

AFAIK, the "Tamara Coach" is still available.

Rusty, I sent Tamara an e-mail last night as soon as I saw the coach and she is having a buyer come in on Wednesday, if the deal falls through she will email me. Hopefully someone on this site is going to get a sweet deal.

Wish I knew more about the insulation type, will go to my local Home depot and see what I can see.

Chuckd

I really don't know for sure, but taking apart the ceiling on my '89 Regal has revealed pink fiberglass insulation in certain areas and that silver-sided thin air bubble insulation glued onto the back of the luan plywood. Maybe this constitutes "double" insulation. The pink fiberglass could only be approx. 1.5" thick as that is about the thickness of the aluminum channel that comprises the wall/top construction. I have no idea what is under the floor.

Here's more.

Kirk

Kirk: I saw that picture in my search, and that is what bothered me, I camp in places where it is 15 to 20 degrees below zero. On a pole so ee space heaters are very much in evidence as well as heat tape.

Chuck

I wish mine had double insulation or for that matter fiber glass insulation. All mine has is that thin bubble insulation, nothing else. When it is below 30 degrees, the furnace runs almost continuously. when the sun hits the side of the coach in the morning, 30 minutes later it is above 75 degrees inside.

This is the one thing that I m NOT happy about

Chuckd,

Have you researched this?

My understanding of double insulation, in buildings, is a vapor or radiant barrier, which could be foil, plastic, or closed-cell foam, coupled with a thermal barrier, such as fiberglass, open cell foam, or even recycled newspaper in times gone by. I may be wrong, so if someone corrects me I will have learned something today.

Extensive discussions could insue regarding types of insulation and the amount of insulation in a 1 inch space.

I am not certain what type or amount of insulation was installed in my vehicle, but living in Minnesota seems to be a good testament to the actual experience.

As Ed stated, below 30 degrees, it becomes a defeating experience.

The SUN is key to daytime heat assistance, but if you are dealing-with a sustained 32 degrees, no sun, night-time, or worse-yet; WIND.

Not only is it difficult to stay even moderately warm and comfortable with both furnaces running and possibly space heaters operating, my biggest concern (fear), is the possibility of a water line freezing somewhere.

I try to winterize no later than November 15th and that is assisted by keeping a close eye on the weather forecasts.

Typically, do not come out of winter storage until mid-march, again, watching temperature forecasts, waiting for those above 32 degree days to reenergise the water system.

I agree with Ed ...wish it were warmer!

When we replaced our tv and ran new HDMI cables in the ceiling there was no insulation at all. Regency '93

I may be incorrect in that the pink insulation in my ceiling was originally placed there by the factory. I have been removing mice nests made of that material (yes, in addition to the AC unit, they got into the ceiling space) and I plan to update my ceiling thread with photos, but for now the camera is out in the MH. So... maybe the critters were hauling it from somewhere beyond the Barth, and I never did have pink insulation originally installed. It isn't everywhere across the ceiling.

I'm beginning to think that insulation was another "option"; TomK's, MWrench's, and my coach were all built around the same time, with differing insulation. Now, I use bubble/foil insulation on the (single-glazed) windows, but two small space heaters kept the coach warm (around 70°) down to 0° with 40kt winds, and cool (~80°) @ 107°.

Ok, this is sort of like an unfathfull pardner, but if you are looking for a cold weather coach, look at triple E. They are made in Canada and are the best insulated coaches I have ever seen.

Now ducking behind my arrow proof wall.

On my Breakaway I have the double pain windows and even with the solid blinds drawn I can't keep the temperature comfortable without a lot of furnace or A/C use.

I'm still with Ed on this one.

I plan to replace my bathroom fan this week, so I will let ya'll know what I find...