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Rear Tail Light Assy - Archived Tech Talk dated March 2, 2004 by DBowers
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I tried the link that I posted and even went as far as checking out only to cancel my order. Had I kept going it would have taken the order. I know it still may be out of stock

http://www.buspartswarehouse.com/Catalog.aspx?ItemId=3022

These people might have a few older stock. Couldn't hurt to check on Wednesday.

I would love to see one of your H3 go carts. How about a link to your website or some pics?

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Bill, I don't have a web site but here is my e:mail. sssd90@earthlink.net

Just e:mail me or let me know your e:mail address and I will send you pics of both the H3 and our pride and joy, the 1932 Ford Roadster. The roadsters are awesome. 11 peak HP, disc brakes, custom paint, custom mirrors with LED turn signals, 1933, 1939 or 1937 Ford tail lights with LED printed circuit boards, etc, etc. They are an awesome golf cart $8995.00 - $26,000.00. Can you imagine yourself driving a $26K golf cart? I just had a guy buy a H3 for his wife and a roadster for himself. Almost $40,000.00. He also drives a 1.5 Mil Provost that he parks INSIDE his house!

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the Bus Parts Warehouse is a very old webpage. They do not have any of these KD light parts.

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Hey Dave V.

I am adament to change-over to LED as for the reasons that I posted earlier, plus I feel that LED is a huge visual and safety up-grade for any vehicle ...looks very cool!

I will probably use all "grommet-mount" type of individual LED lights, so new bezels are definitly the ticket for me...

...just not sure how to go-about having something like that "made".

I thought that a piece of flat-stock, polished aluminum, with mounting holes and rounded corners would work ...then you could just cut the holes for the individual lights and mount any configuration that would "fit". Most LED's are fairly shallow.

There is also the option to enlarge the original mounting openings in the vehicle, as once you remove the original bezels, the holes are cut rather crudely.

Let me know what you come-up with!

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Here are a few pics of the H3 and 32 Ford Roadster. They are originally built in California. Then shipped to Toledo, Ohio where my best friend owns The Hot Rod Shop and builds high dollar custom show cars. At the Hot Rod Shop the bodies are pulled from the chassis and block sanded and completely refinished with the same paint jobs that his show cars get. Such as: 2 coats pearl, 2 coats candy, dual flames, airbrush work and then 5 - 10 coats of clear. Then they are wet sanded and high speed buffed. I sell the carts down here in The Villages, FL where we have about 40,000 golf carts within our community. There are about 65,000 retirees here living in this city where there are about 60 restaurants, 50 golf courses, polo fields, 2 downtown shopping areas, live music entertainment at both downtown squares every night of the week 365 days a year from 5:00 PM to 9:00 PM Most of the community is gated with houses from around 200.00 to 2 million. You must be 55 years of age to own a house here. We have about 40 private heated pools and several full recreation buildings. There are hundreds of miles of paved golf cart paths and most people have 1 car and 1 - 2 golf carts. You do everything by golf cart. You go to the doctor, the vet, haircut, dentist, grocery shopping, church and just riding around on golf carts. The entire community (about 15 miles x 15 miles) is completely landscaped like Disney World. There are not cigarette butts, papers, junk, or anything lying around. The entire place is immaculate. They call this the Disney World for Adults. We even have our own college, high school and grade school, only for children of the people who work for The Villages. Contractors, sales, etc. But there are no kids under 19 years old living in The Villages. Nor can anyone under 30 years old even go into the pools unless they go to a family pool. It is really quite a place.

Well attached are some pics of the H3, and a couple others ones.

(We just bought a Barth 28 foot Regal with a 460 Ford Gas last Saturday morning. It has 40 k on the chassis and the wife lost a fan belt and burned up the motor. They put a new motor in the Barth for $7,200.00 and it has only 1,000 miles on it. The interior looks like new. Leather chairs, twin beds, bath in rear, cherry cabinets. I am installing a High Definition TV in the front that will pull out and swivel. Had to put a new set of Michelins on, the old tires were cracked but had lots of tread. Other than that, it's pretty clean. Gave $19K for it. I have no idea what it is worth. I think I got a good deal but I don't have the foggiest. It is our first Motor Coach.

Dave Vanderwall

 
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These people might have a few older stock. Couldn't hurt to check on Wednesday.


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"the Bus Parts Warehouse is a very old webpage. They do not have any of these KD light parts.
 
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Bill, I love the golf carts to death.. Deb and I were once looking at Sun City, AZ and they are all carts there. Great idea for a bunch of geezers to go 20 or less. That's a self dig my the way. You did fine on your Regal and I bet you'll love it. What a great size.

When we bought our coach I told Deb that it has to be comfortable enough to spend 3 days in a rain storm holed up in it. We have and it is. Add to that the fact that I can turn it around in a cul-d-sac and take it 40 miles on dirt roads without anything rattling too much. A great choice indeed....

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Bill, I love the golf carts to death...


Dave, I just posted the pics and his letter. The coach is owned by "dave and sandi" Vanderwall.

The way I read his letter it sounded like his wife blew the motor. In fact he bought it with the new motor and paid a total of 19k. He called me and we had a nice chat, a very pleasant man indeed.

I like the pics too. That brown roadster is one nice looking golfcart.

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To Robin(medic37) or anyone else interested:

Type in autolumination.com or superlumination.com (it's the same site) it has a wide range of many types of replacement LED bulbs that work in various standard places. Also has some nice LED lights that would take the place of the airplane type reading lights even has strope lights if you want to get real creative.
The site is diffently worth looking at.
One good thing about using these type of replacement bulbs is if it burns out (when your ninety)you don't have to buy a whole LED assembly.
 
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Thanks Jim for the web-site information!

After experimenting a-bit with the LED Lamps that bayonet-mount into the standard 1156 / 1157 sockets, I was not too impressed with the individual number of LED's per lamp and consequently, the amount of illumination from that type of bulb itself.

This is why I am fairly certain that I will be manufacturing new bezels for the rear tail-light assemblies and replacing all other running lights, turnsignals, etc., with an LED equivalent.

It's amazing how much LED is showing-up on the roads, primarily on tractor-trailer rigs, but also on busses and just about any other type of commercial vehicles.

...not to say that these units won't ever fail, but there's the remote possibility that you may never need to replace the LED Units ever again.

There is obviously some expense involved in the transformation, but I hope the overall benefit will out-weigh the cost.

The performance, brillance and response-time of LED is so much better, that it becomes a huge safety up-grade, plus the benefit of such a low-AMP draw, you can add just about as many LED's to your system as you want and still have a lower "draw" than if you were using incandescent.

I was out at 0300 this morning taking a walk and it was 7 degrees with a -4 wind-chill. Right now it's snowing, 22 degrees and I'm sitting here in a Fire Station Dispatch Center, listening to crash after crash being "put-out" on-the-air.

It's still cold and snowy in Minnesota and it will be a while B-4 I will be working-on this project.

My 20 x 30 heated garage held my 26 foot GMC really slick ...the interior foot-print is 29 feet and the Barth is 32 feet, so after spending 15 years in Arizona, the poor beast has to sit outdoors in the cold and snow. Will be adding-on to the garage this summer, so next year I will have a place to work in the winter.

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It's amazing how much LED is showing-up on the roads, primarily on tractor-trailer rigs, but also on busses and just about any other type of commercial vehicles.

The performance, brillance and response-time of LED is so much better, that it becomes a huge safety up-grade, plus the benefit of such a low-AMP draw, you can add just about as many LED's to your system as you want and still have a lower "draw" than if you were using incandescent.


I like the looks of the LED when you have an incandescent and an LED on the same rig. You can tell that the LED is just on and off and the incandescent actually come on dim then bright and then go dull before off. Really is neat to look at.

You don't realize this until you see the truck hooked to a trailer and one rig is incandescent while the other is LED.
 
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Hey Robin we have had some really cold weather too with the COOL front were having.
About 45 at night and 68-72 during the day----sorry I just had to say that.
I replaced my side marker lights and the top clearance lights with LED's.
I sent some pictures of them to Bill Goodwin, however, I can't find them right now. When I do I'll post them. I removed my top lights(in bad shape) and filled in the holes and mounted the new lights on the side. I did not like the idea of possible leaks on the roof.
I bought my side lights from led-r-us.com they have a good selection. I used item 1375A & 1375R (they are sometimes called double bullseye) and are about $8 each.
Instead of mounting them direct I made aluminum backing plates for them which I riveted to the Barth and then screwed the light to the plate.
I'll look for the pictures or take new ones.
As they say "a picture is worth a thousand words". Hope you can thaw out.
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Thanks Jim for the web-site addy ...I will check-it-out!

I can't wait until the temperature is "at-least" 45 degrees ...that's a heat-wave for us at this time of year.

Have lived here all my life, so I guess it's no big deal. Sure would like to have more of a year-round season though ...we probably won't see 78 degrees until late May or early June.

The change-of-seasons is definitly a great part of living here and we lucked-out with a very mild winter this year ...I don't mind the cold and snow [actually, "I hate it"], but it's when you get a period of about 3 weeks of -30 temps and -50 wind-chills that begins to mess with your head ..you can spit and it freezes B-4 hitting the ground.

The deep freeze forces most of us to take our motor coaches out-of-service for the winter, so in a couple of years, I hope to do a full interior remodel during the winter months and be all ready-to-roll around the end of March ...no CASH for that project just yet!

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The following is from an Engineer in our Scotland office in response to my telling him about our winter weather in Los Angeles.

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You people in LA, calling 80º a winter - what a f***ing nerve! If it gets above 60 over here, we all run out and expose our pale blue bodies to the feeble rays - and get burnt! There is a joke about Scottish temperatures and our behaviour, which I will try to find; however it is particularly appropriate with the Soccer world cup being played out this year.





As the temperature drops below zero, a Scotsman might think about putting a sunhat on;

-50º - perhaps time for a t-shirt;

-100º - barbecue weather;

-150º - getting a bit parky, time to get off the beach;

-200º - better put a coat on to go to the pub;

-273º - all life and atomic movement stops, Scotsmen stay indoors;

-300º - **** freezes over, Scotland support England in the World Cup finals
 
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I have done some research on LED tail lights. At this point in time, it doesn't look like I can duplicate the exact same size tail light lenses in LED technology as the originals. I found rectangular in Red but they are about 5 x 3 vs. 7 1/2 x 3 3/4 stock. I found oval that are about 7 inches but about 3 inches tall. LED backup lights are very expensive and are mostly limited to round or oval. Whatever I choose, I will have to have mounting plates machined to fit the exact old backing plate size so that the discolored paint under the removed piece will be covered with the new piece. So, here is the question...... Do you think Barth owners will object to not having the original designed tail lights? In other words they are not going to look like the originally designed barth tail light assy. Do you think rectangle will look better than enlongated oval? And, since the back up lights are more expensive and since most Barth white back up light lenses are in tact, should I try to keep the original incandescent back up light utilizing the original lens? If you guys have any ideas, please post them. In the next week I am going to order a set of LED lights and send them to a machine shop in Ohio for a backing plate fabrication, either made from heavy plate aluminum or stainless. The Red LED lights are about $30.00 @ and the back up lights are about $60.00. A lot depends on how may LEDs are in the light. Any thoughts? I am also guessing that 2 mounting plates will run about $60.00. So with LED tail and brake lights it will cost about about $200.00 or with LED back up lights, add another $120.00 making a complete set under $350.00. I am going ahead with this project for my 1990 Barth (It has the horizontal arrangement with 2 rectangular red lenses with a white back up in between.) Any interest? Any thoughts? Dave V
 
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