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Removal of rear tires to do brakes
02-21-2010, 08:59 PM
RustyRemoval of rear tires to do brakes
The 19.5 and 22.5" wheels are typically in the 450 lb-ft range
Rusty
"StaRV II"'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP
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02-21-2010, 09:03 PM
bill hquote:
Originally posted by Shadow man:
You guys have it easy.

I have to be between 450-500 ft lbs on my bus. Good thing i have a torque multiplier, set my torque wrench for 50 lbs and i am good.
Ah, C'mon......500 ft lbs is a 165 lb man standing on a three-foot pipe slipped over the lug wrench. Gravity does all the work.
To loosen, just boogie a little.
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84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered
02-22-2010, 09:27 AM
Shadow manBill, years ago i was doing that and had either the cheater bar slip off, or my feet slip off, and ended up getting whacked in the shins.

Just a couple of days ago i was talking to a guy that got hit in the mouth one time. Neither one of us have ever done it that way again....it may work but it ain't worth it.

02-22-2010, 11:41 AM
bill hquote:
Originally posted by Shadow man:
Bill, years ago i was doing that and had either the cheater bar slip off, or my feet slip off, and ended up getting whacked in the shins.

Just a couple of days ago i was talking to a guy that got hit in the mouth one time. Neither one of us have ever done it that way again....it may work but it ain't worth it.
Wow! Lots of bad luck there. On big radial recips, we had prop nuts that took humungous torque. We had a thing called a Sweeney Wrench that took a chain fall and/or a lot of muscle to position it. Once set up, it was easy, as it was a 10X torque multiplier. Instead, we used the long bar method with great success and little effort. All we needed was a scale and a tape measure. Ours was not rinky-dink, and we had no incidents. The FAA guy was OK with it, but if OSHA had been existence then, they probably would have gone catatonic.
Actually, OSHA never came around without prior notice, and seemed to work bankers' hours, so they never saw all the heavy work at night.
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84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered
02-22-2010, 12:00 PM
MWrenchI use a 3 foot breaker bar, I am about 200 lbs so I sit at the end, which wouldn't be exactly 3 feet out, with the breaker bar horizontal and that will give me the 450-600 lb/ft torque required. I use a jack stand for a pivot point for the extension out of the wheel (rears) and just the socket on the front, never had a slip.
Even with that bar, I couldn't get Rusty's rears loose at the DC GTG.
When I first got the Barth two rear studs were completely stripped (I drove it that way not knowing from LV to home) replaced with longer wheel studs, didn't have enough thread engagement with aluminum wheels, Aluminum wheels are much thicker and take longer studs then steel wheels.
Ed
94 30' Breakaway #3864
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03-21-2010, 01:02 PM
Ed ChevalierI just bought a torque multiplier/lugnut remover Item #93645 at Harbor Freight Tools for $25.99. It also has a lifetime warranty-very useful at Harbor Freight. It works easily on the lug nuts on the Regal.
1999 Airstream Safari 25'
2007 Toyota Tundra
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03-21-2010, 01:35 PM
Danny ZLooks pretty nice. I already have it on my list for the next trip to Sarasota.
http://www.harborfreight.com/c...mber=93645&Submit=Go
79 Barth Classic
03-21-2010, 03:00 PM
bill hquote:
Originally posted by Ed Chevalier:
I just bought a torque multiplier/lugnut remover Item #93645 at Harbor Freight Tools for $25.99. It works easily on the lug nuts on the Regal.
What size lug nuts does your Regal have?
I took a quick look at one, and it looked like it would need some parts made to work on my 1-inch lug nuts buried inside the duals.
I find that if I am the only one to torque lug nuts, they are never hard to remove. I keep a wire toothbrush taped to my lug wrench so it is always handy to clean the threads, whether they appear to need it or not.
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84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered
03-21-2010, 05:17 PM
Ed ChevalierI have 1" lugs. This torque multiplier adjustable lever does not fit over the 1" lug, but you can rest it beside the lug to gain leverage. Does anyone know what the torque rating is for these lug nuts?
1999 Airstream Safari 25'
2007 Toyota Tundra
1987 Yamaha YSR toads
03-21-2010, 06:17 PM
bill hquote:
Originally posted by Ed Chevalier:
I have 1" lugs. This torque multiplier adjustable lever does not fit over the 1" lug, but you can rest it beside the lug to gain leverage. Does anyone know what the torque rating is for these lug nuts?
My GM manual says 130-180 lbs ft.
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84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered
03-21-2010, 08:09 PM
Gary CarterIf you have 22.5 or 24.5 the torque is based upon type of wheel. Aluminum is about 425 and steel up to 600 but 500 is fine.
19.5 like our breakaway is about 200
If you have an inner nut depends of type of mount. Stud mount has an inner and outer. Hub mount has on an outer.
P30 is a stud mount.
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