Good afternoon all. Talking to Roy about his MCC. I have searched the Barth archives and found out the history, GW issues, suspension quirks et al. I have owned an FMC in the past so I have some first hand knowledge. Two topics:1 when FMC owners converted their's to diesel power they added shear plates to the sides for the increased load, how was the MCC chassis enhanced to handle the load? 2. Does any one know what the cross section of the floors, walls, and ceilings look like?
Thanks in advance
Chuckd
Barth Class C

It appears the MCC was designed for a diesel, here is a vintage article on it.

http://truckroadservice.com/ba...arth_MCC_Article.pdf

FMC made two lengths of coach, 29' and 35'. The former was typically powered by a Chrysler 440, but I know of at least 2 that had diesel conversions.

quote:

Originally posted by Rusty:
FMC made two lengths of coach, 29' and 35'.

A 35 ft FMC?

The article posted by Madrone says the 35 footers were built by Barth and called MCCs. After FMC stopped production of the motor home.

The late Leslie Hoagland [now owned BY Chris Hoagland]
of MotorCoachRestorations [MCR] of BROADWELL, IL 1-800-786-1536
wrote that "MCC actually changed the Front Spring, Upper Suspension Arms,
Trailing Arms, and Torsion Bars to increase Suspension capacity from original FMC motorhome Chassis..."

The FMC coaches GVW was 5400 lbs front
and with 10500 lbs at the rear.
The MCC coaches GVW was 8000 lbs front
and with 15000 lbs at the rear.

The MCC motorhome was based on the FMC transit coach.
http://www.steinborn.org/jim/fmc/

But as to "they added shear plates to the sides for the increased load"
I cannot find any reference about this that refers to the MCC motorcoach!!

quote:

A 35 ft FMC?

The article posted by Madrone says the 35 footers were built by Barth and called MCCs. After FMC stopped production of the motor home.

...after FMC stopped production in 1976 because of high gas prices
and winning a contract for the production of military equipment
some of the staff started another company "MCC" where they conceived and built the MCC
basing their design on the FMC transit coach.
They built 38 original MCC coaches and then went bankrupt.
Barth, who was their main purchaser, had only sold the coaches after doing the interiors.
Barth formed the Regency Corp. and built the last seven MCC motor coaches.
The Regency corp. also built an 92 additional chassis!
For a grand total of
45 MCC coaches,
52 Barth with the Regency chassis,
30 Country coach with the Regency chassis
and as well an additional 3 coaches.
Giving a grand Total of 130 coaches
using the MCC chassis system!!
The MCC and Regency were built for GVW of 20,000 lbs
but modified both the front spring and the wheels
when they found that the coaches weighed [when road ready] 23,000 lbs or even more!!

Can we determine which of the MCC coaches was built by which company? VIN? Data tag?

Thanks or all the responses, an interesting history for sure. Will be giving Chris a call (Leslie's son) to pick his Brains a bit.

Again thanks

Chucked
Class C

quote:

Originally posted by Tom and Julie:
Can we determine which of the MCC coaches was built by which company? VIN? Data tag?

MCC built the first MCC 38 coaches 1981-1982...

Regency built the last MCC 7 coaches 1982...

Regency built an additional 52 coaches using the MCC chassis...

Country Coach built 30 using the MCC/Regency chassis...

And an additional 3 coaches were built using the MCC/Regency chassis....

PS--- the only work that Barth did with the fibreglass MCC was limited
to the interior build. The MCC coaches were built in California
and were shipped to Indiana where they were finished.
The Regency chassis was completely built in California
and shipped to wherever the coaches were to be built.

Doug, you're da man!!

I suspect that Barth's acquisition of MCC was for the chassis more than the body. Even though the Regency chassis was short lived it resulted in some fine Regency on Gillig Chassis.