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8/11 |
I found I had a blown diver side air bag on my Barth so I figured I'd better get that fixed right away got the big GTG coming up. So I bought a new set of Coil-Rite Firestone bags online from SD TruckSprings, free shipping for $103.00 not a bad price I thought. Don't know for sure how long these bags last, figured I was due for a new set anyway. The installation of the bags looked pretty simple and removing the old bags looked easy as well. Just drill a simple 1-1/2" hole in bottom of the old bag grab the bag with a pair of vise grips and pull it out. Well unless you're Hercules you are not pulling that old bag out. So I gave the old bag a spiral cut with my Saws-all and then it pulled right out easy enough. Then it came to putting the new bag in, directions say just fold the bag into itself. give it a twist and insert the bag through the hole in the control arm and up it goes right into the coil spring. I know anyone that has installed these bags are laughing because that is impossible, for me anyway. Once again if you had Hercules hands then that might be possible. I laughed at myself trying it. It was like trying to cram a baseball bat down the kitchen sink drain. So I folded the bags as tight as I could and then with my wife's help used tie-wraps to hold the bag in the collapsed position, with that I was able to get the bag threw the hole and up into the spring, and that still took some effort. But anyway after some installation deviations I have a nice new set of air bags, new tubing and valves. Next year I plan on replacing the rear bags, this site SD TruckSprings also has coil and leaf springs if anyone is interested. | ||
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12/12 |
Next time, I'd suggest: 1. A few minutes in hot water to limber them up. 2. Fold lengthwise per directions, but slip two hose clamps over bag a couple inches from top. w/ drill & nut driver, cinch them up tight. 3. Spray bag & hole w/ a lubricant (Pam, silicone, etc. 4. Insert into hole, and use drill to loosen/slide/retighten alternating clamps as needed to "walk" bag thru hole. 5. A dab of grease holds the top donut in place as you get to the fully inserted stage. | |||
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8/11 |
Lee, your installation steps should replace the installation sheet that came with the air bags. That would have made my installation that much easier. I used soap for a lubricant on the bags, your step #1 would have made a huge difference on getting the bag to fold up nice and tight. Which leads to #2 I had to use a hose clamp on the last few inches of the bag to get it to go threw. And #5 is a great idea it would have eliminated the need to try to collapse the top of the bag to get the donut in there. I suggest to anyone that is going to install these bags follow Lees 5 steps and it will make your installation a breeze. | |||
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Official Barth Junkie |
I used hose clamps on mine, it was easy that way. One more comment: sometimes the hole in the control arm is a bit jagged, doesn't hurt to smooth up a bit with a round file to make the bag slide in easier. (Tom: maybe you can edit the thread title to "Regal Front Air Bag Install" now that Lee gave us the scoop! Easier to find with search later...) 9708-M0037-37MM-01 "98" Monarch 37 Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison Cummins 8.3 325+ hp | |||
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First Month Member 11/13 |
I use hose clamps to squeeze the bag down, and then install bands of baling wire twisted tight instead of hose clamps. Hose clamp is removed and moved down a little to repeat. The wire takes up less room, and the extra work assures no fiddling with hose clamps during installation. Easy to slip a pair of dikes in between the coils to remove them. Or use duckbills to untwist the wire. Ditto on smoothing the hole edges. . 84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered | |||
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6/12 Formally known as "Humbojb" |
As an alternative, SuperSteer Coil Springs for Chevy/Workhorse 'P' Chassis Class A Motorhome, 3900 to 4300 lb. Front Axle Weight I replaced the coil spring/air bag assembly on our '85 Regal and it made a significant difference in the ride quality. More firm but not harsh, accurate ride height adjustment, no airing up of bags, etc. Jim
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