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Has anyone used the supersteer alignment specs for the p30/32 bellcrank.I am worried that the inch difference in caster and the difference in camber is gonna create to much pull. | |||
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Several years ago when I added Bell Cranks to my 33' 88 Regal SE I had to realign the front end. The results were much better. My current Breakaway may get a SteerSafe for Christmas.............. Carl "THE TOY" 1992 Breakaway Coach #3745 | |||
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Did you use the specs that came with the bellcrank.Mine is a 92 chevy motorhome chassis p30/32. | ||||
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BellCranks came from CW. I had a truck alignment garage do the job. I was told the alignment would be to the specs for the cranks........... Carl "THE TOY" 1992 Breakaway Coach #3745 | |||
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Is yours a p series chassis | ||||
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The 33' 1988 Regal SE Had a tag axel and was a P32 (so I was told). But as Bill H says "I have a P30 something".......................... Carl "THE TOY" 1992 Breakaway Coach #3745 | |||
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Carl, the Breakaway is a solid axle and the steering box is mounted directly to the axle. If your king pins and tie rod end joints are tight, I don't think SteerSafe will do anything for you. There are no bell cranks and far fewer ball joints on the Spartan EC2000 chassis Ed 94 30' Breakaway #3864 30-BS-6B side entry 230 Cummins, Allison 6 speed Spartan chassis K9DVC | |||
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Once adjusted, it helps keep the wheels pointed straight, irrespective of the front suspension design. However, the Pee-thirty-Somethings seem to benefit from that action more than other chassis. . 84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered | |||
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I dont really understand what you mean by keeping the wheels pointing straight.Wouldnt i do that anyway unless i was making a turn. | ||||
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MWrench: ED: Thanks for the advise about my Breakaway's front end. Cheaper to have the front end rechecked than spend $500.00 for the SteerSafe. I envy you fella's that can do your own work...................... Carl "THE TOY" 1992 Breakaway Coach #3745 | |||
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You are welcome Carl. As Bill said if SafeSteer is properly adjusted it will tend to "force" the front wheels to stay centered. This is where I have an issue. I want the steering system to be as free as possible with no drag imposed. This is a personal preference of course. With my Breakaway I have a bigger problem than most 30' Breakaways. I have more weight in the back and the weight is further back as well. This with a short wheel base really gets into the "tail wagging the dog" syndrome. No add on will fix that, it is just physics. Ed 94 30' Breakaway #3864 30-BS-6B side entry 230 Cummins, Allison 6 speed Spartan chassis K9DVC | |||
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Do you think a Panhard bar (or even a Watts linkage) would help? Or did Spartan do that already?
My own guess is that a centering device or system is more appreciated on something like an IFS Pee, with all those parts trying to move in formation. I would suspect that a beam axle kingpin front suspension, with fewer moving parts, (and decently tight kingpin bushings) would need a little less help. A centering device might compensate for the need of a rebush and a reaming. My tag axle Pee seems to need less help than the two previous non-tag Pee SOBs, probably because of the tag keeping the coach pointed a little straighter. . 84 30T PeeThirty-Something, 502 powered | |||
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The diff has a short panhard bar, but the front does not. I have been thinking about this but time has not permitted much effort here. All the shackles and spring end bushings (FRONT AND REAR) have been replaced and that helped a small bit. The rear panhard bar was replaced. Independent suspension systems has far more motion dynamics than a solid axle does. Ed 94 30' Breakaway #3864 30-BS-6B side entry 230 Cummins, Allison 6 speed Spartan chassis K9DVC | |||
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I have SteerSafe on my Breakaway - installed by the prior owner. He said it did improve handling, although his motive was to prevent a yank on the wheel in event of a front tire blowout. Rusty '94 28' Breakaway MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP Two not-spoiled Golden Retrievers (Casey and Nelson) Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. - Arthur C. Clarke | |||
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We have a Safe T Plus on our Breakaway. Seems to work just fine- but have never removed it to see what difference it might make. The original owner was a "diesel" guy I heard (but not really sure what was meant by that), so I have assumed that it was put for some useful purpose and (presumably) provides some benefit. Bud 1993 Breakaway 36ft Spartan: air ride and brakes Cummins: 8.3 litre 250hp, PACBrake Allison 3060 (6 spd) Front entry, side hallway 7.5 kw diesel gen. 1999 2dr Tracker 4X4 5spd, SMI Braking system | |||
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